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  • 485Mbe4001
    09-10 04:14 PM
    i guess they were very happy that they discussed the horse issue and they decided to take a well deserved break...as for 5882 who cares, as one poster mentioned, the horses are US citizens and they support the economy by eating grass. Republicans are happy because legal horses will be eating legal grass as opposed to illegals cutting and shipping grass to the horses. Democrats will be happy because the horses are well looked after.

    ... i am just venting but i think this is a sign of the times we live in :D .To the folks who say that everything will be ok with the new Prez comes, remember the congress will mostly stay the same.

    ya ... at least one issue will be closed by them ... hopefully they discuss our bill today ...





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  • jsb
    08-15 04:26 PM
    What do EB cutoff dates in Sept VB mean? All eligible for filing AOS did in July/Aug. Does it mean that USCIS will be giving visa (approving GC) to those within the new cutoff dates?





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  • Macaca
    09-26 11:06 AM
    The email should have info so that recipient can verify that rally was for EB GC issues and not H1B issues.

    Say rally was organized by IV.
    Put link to IV so they can check IV agenda.
    Put link to Washington Post/NY Times article that correctly reported the rally.





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  • EdenMN
    02-19 05:04 PM
    As we know this bill won't surive due to current economic conditions...How about making it attrcative by adding 5k fees if person wants GC staying more than 5years



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  • amsgc
    07-02 09:36 PM
    Regarding your argument on fairness:

    On the contrary, under the current system immigrants from all nations do not have an equal opportunity to apply for a green card. Immigrants from the retrogressed countries are at an unfair disadvantage.

    It is easy to see: A guy from ROW and a guy from India both are equally qualified engineers who have a EB2 PD of Jan 2008. The guy from ROW can apply to adjust status now, but the guy from India cannot apply until five years from now. That doesn't tell me that both immigrants have an equal opportunity.

    Both immigrants would have had an equal opportunity if both could apply for GC at the same time. Once you have entered the country, have been gainfully employed, and your immigrant petition has been approved, how does it matter whether you came from India, china or Timbuktu? Your employer needs you for your skills, not your place of birth. Do you resolve your day to day office problems with your birth certificate pasted to your forehead?

    Regarding your argument on diversity:

    You need to understand that the country cap (set up 50 years ago) was NOT set up to give all countries an equal shot at sending EB immigrants to the US. The cap was based and an already existing xenophobic tendency (formally expressed way back in 1924) and the desire to retain the cultural and racial character of the US of '65. They would do fine with only handful of you if you didn't eat, drink, talk, walk and look like them.

    Now, you need to understand another important point - The world has changed by leaps and bounds in the last fifty years, all made possible by advances in technology and a conscientious effort by governments to educate their people. As a result there are highly skilled people all over the world, who bring their own unique character and experience to the work place. And things have changed dramatically in the US too. Among other things, the US has become more accommodating to people of different cultural identities. Economically, the US is in need of more high skilled people than ever before. This is an irreversible trend, where the US of today is more interested in who you are and what you bring to the table than what you look like. If a few thousand Indians or Chinese are given the green card, based on their SKLLS, it will not alter the racial and cultural character of 300000000 Americans (that's 300 followed by six zeros). Rather it will only make it richer.

    Usually politicians work in reactionary mode – they will espouse an idea once it is obvious that they can’t do without it. The fact that discussion to remove country caps in EB has come up in the congress means that the American people have already written it off as an absurd idea.

    The law will change, whether you like it or not.

    Read here and get yourself some education:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Act_of_1952
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_Nationality_Services_Act_of_1965


    Regarding the agenda:

    The agenda of this organization is pretty darn obvious if you care to go through the home page. The idea is to get as close as possible to a system of immigration that appropriately addresses the needs of the US economy and is fair to both Peter and Paul. A system which gives out a green card in a timely fashion, based on skills, job requirements, and the time when the process was started. We need to advocate a change because the current system says to Paul "screw you" and rewards Peter.





    I've said it before and I'll say it again - I don't see how the per country limit is unfair! It was set up so that immigrants from ALL nations would have EQUAL opportunity to immigrate to the U.S. and to prevent any one (or two) countries from monopolizing the visa numbers. Getting rid of the per country limit would most certainly lead to immigration from a limited number of sources (countries) and thus jeopardize the diversity of the immigration process. Getting rid of it would be like robbing Peter to pay Paul because those countries who are severely retrogressed now would only see limited benefits and those who are not all that retrogressed would fall backwards - is that fair!? It seems these forms are dominated by "certain" groups who have their own agenda and don't really care about ROW! It makes me feel uncomfortable being an IV member from ROW!





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  • dealsnet
    03-19 11:12 AM
    The conservative approch for the dependants is 1.2 to 1.5 times the labor approvals. Not all people have a dependants.
    Husband and wife have labor approved. Like my case, my wife have labor approved, but I have file with my labor, which have older PD. Working family with husband and wife in H1B most of them have labor approved. So the actual number will be diffrent.

    From the PERM statistics,
    ROW adjustment should be 55% from the total number of pending cases
    EB3 are 30%

    If the total number of case pending with USCIS is 833,141 (all I-485 including Family based) (based on 12/31 numbers), so EB3 ROW are only 137,468. This means that with the current trend of DOS to avoid wasting GC we should expect the cut-off dates for EB3ROW to be 2006/2007.


    Even if I take your figures at face value, I see a shortage of 60000 visas. This is because we need to consider that each LC will use more than one EB visa (due to family members). If I take a conservative figure that there will be one dependent for each LC candidate, we will need 200,000 EB visas for the 100,000 LCs.



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  • engineer
    06-12 11:51 AM
    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/





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  • senthil1
    04-04 03:20 PM
    Your argument may be true only some extent. If you keep on asking more H1b and GC without meaningful reform of H1b then it won't sell in the congress and they will try to keep staus quo and you have to wait years to get gc. How do you resolve the problem of Cap reached within few days? Will congress accept unlimited H1bs? What is the solution for this?

    Open your eyes and look clearly. This bill is designed to put an end to any competition for middle aged racist engineers afraid of competition from people who fit the profile of the membership of IV. Some members on the forum seem to think that this bill contain provisions to protect H-1b workers, but that is not true. This bill is designed to mean that current workers on H-1 are taking away American jobs as the protection proposed by the bill were not there when most of the forum members came on H1b. This bill was written by Ron Hira and IEEE. If nothing else then we need to understand that Ron Hira et al, are not in love with any of us. They represent middle aged racist engineers in US who are scared of competition and globalization. So please stop day dreaming and expecting that this bill would have anything to protect/benefit green card applicants. I understand/share the frustration with body-shoppers/consulting companies. Why whine about consulting companies and, work for them at the same time. If you are so good then why don't you switch jobs. Accenture, PWC, D&T, Bearing Point, Oracle consulting etc. also do consulting, what about them. Supporting this or any other bill from Sen. Grassley is suicidal. It�s acting like the 90% of ignorant Republican base, who earn less than 30K/yr and still support the party that oppose welfare reform and give tax breaks to the richest.

    Taking out frustration on consulting companies doesn�t help us. If the green card process would work in the intended manner, none of us will be beholden to the employer. And there will be no room for frustration. Any employer would take advantage of such loopholes in the process where employee is beholden to the employer. But the thing is, employers or consulting companies did not create the currently broken green card process, neither did they create the backlog. The lawmakers, who did not attend to the immigration system for more than a decade, are responsible for the current system. And organizations like IEEE are responsible for opposing any meaningful reform on H1B/green card issues. Now they are using the situation to their advantage by tainting a pictures if we all the people in US, waiting for their green cards, should not have been in US if the system proposed by the bill was in place. And it is astonishing to see people calling to support a bill wihtout knowing its contents. So why blame our problems on consulting companies? You think IEEE drafted this bill for people who match the profile of IV members? This bill was has been drafted with the objective to secure the position of middle aged racist engineers, who do not want to upgrade their skills and who are scared of young minds ready to compete and learn new things.



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  • singhsa3
    03-04 12:16 PM
    Those were different times. Try taking mortgage now on your EAD.
    Here are my particulars:
    Family income: Almost 4-5 times per capital GDP
    Job type: Stable
    Credit score : Excellent
    Highest education: MBA
    Willing to put downpayment: Yes, required 20%
    Mortgage application: Rejected as EAD is valid for only one year.

    Now you tell me what should I do...


    I was 37 years old when I arrived on H1b in 1999, I had owned properties back home and I had a fair amount of equity.

    In 1999 my wife and I could see the Southern California real estate market was growing. Our initial idea had been to rent for 6 months, and get to know the area, then decided where we wanted to buy. My employer applied for H1b in November 1998 and it was approved in May 1999. We came over in January 1999 to look for property to rent but also with a view to maybe purchase.

    Within 2 weeks of my H1b approval my wife and I came over and because of the property price increases since we began looking at the market we felt renting was going to be dead money and we need to buy for economical reasons.

    So in June 1999 we purchased a 1,950 sqft house for $280,000.

    In September 2003 we sold that house for $535,000.

    Using the increased equity my wife who is H4 chose another house (as she couldn’t work it was important to me that she be happy in the house). The next house we purchased was 4,550sqft, and in December 2003 it cost $835,000.

    I know the market for real estate is shrinking, but according to Zillow.com this morning the property is valued around $1,230,000 albeit was worth considerably more a year ago.

    I’m not looking to brag, I am sharing my experience.

    1 my wife and kids were on H4 they needed a home to be happy in.
    2 it made economic sense to buy
    3 we got the right funding
    4 had we waited for GC we could never have afforded the home we currently live in.

    The timing of immigration approvals had no bearing on whether I decided to purchase property.

    good luck to all





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  • Munna Bhai
    12-26 06:50 PM
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  • smuggymba
    09-10 08:36 AM
    I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

    http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf


    EB2 total pending 34325
    EB3 total pending 136325


    2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
    less eb2 " " 34325
    --------------------------------------------
    " " 51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
    2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
    less eb3 - 136325
    --------------------------------------------
    42636 ( eb3 pending left over from above )
    2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

    So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

    above math is based on
    inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
    assuming no new applicants applying.
    Hope I am correct! :)


    Hi Sanju-dba,
    In the predictions thread, I saw the members saying there are 100-120K people waiting in EB2 from now until 2010. You're saying it's 34K...can u post this in the predictions thread so that other members can analyze the numbers. Thanks.





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  • NKR
    03-10 10:09 AM
    I have been lurking on this forum to understand the plight of EB immigrants and the posts the last few weeks have confirmed my belief that the problem exist because a lot of people came to the US from 1999-2006 and want to stay here permanently. The EB immigration system was fine before then; thus, the problem is supply/demand, not the immigration policies.

    You are partly right, but the problem does not end there. Lot of it has to do with the disorderly way the applications were/are being picked up. All the old applications were pushed to BECs and newer perm applications were picked up for processing. The dates were abruptly moved forward which allowed USCIS to approve newer 485 applications before the dates were pushed back. I am a victim of both these cases… Also, there has been a lot of wastage of visa numbers. If none of these happened I am sure the EB3 dates would have move forward without getting stagnated in 2001.



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  • thomachan72
    05-26 08:07 PM
    as one member mentioned I am planning to take photocopy (notarized) of my visa and I-94 and carry one copy in the car. I am sure they are not out there to capture H1b/L1 visa holders who are ilegal. They will have to search for years before they can find somebody. There are very very very few it all any of us who might be present ilegally and they very well should know that by now. The should be more concerned about those who come on B1/B2 or other visas like artists etc. These are likely to overstay but 99% of us EB people are legal and very careful to be legal always. But anyway thanks for posting, I am getting my photocopy ASAP.





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  • ZigZag
    07-13 03:28 PM
    See the attachment which I had come across in this forum and saved it

    Hope this is helpful.



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  • Since1997
    08-15 05:28 PM
    The reason for availability is:

    D. EMPLOYMENT PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY FOR SEPTEMBER

    Due to the return of unused July numbers by consular posts abroad, and the limited amount of pending demand eligible for final processing at consular posts, it has been possible to reestablish cut-off dates in many of the Employment preference categories.





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  • krishmunn
    05-23 02:25 PM
    MBA is not for everyone and in addition, an Online MBA doesn't have any value. .

    Agree with your first part ---- MBA (or any Masters) is not for everyone -- you are a living example :)

    For second part of your post (online MBA does not have any value) ---- you are probably still living in stone age -- BTW, did you hear of something called google :)



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  • rajuram
    11-14 09:33 AM
    Totally agree, very nicely put. They will hear - listen if we present ideas that are pertinent to the existing situation. Nothing more pertinent than the housing mess. No one cares about old jaded ideas like "high talent" etc.

    Can people in California approach Zoe Lofergens office with the idea?

    On my part I will start sending letters and emails to the law makers.

    Some one in the core has to take the lead and give some direction to this effort......

    Do not regret if six months from now the housing crisis has cooled a little, no one will listen to us then. We would have wasted another chance. Do not take it for granted that now Obama is in office, he will do smoething about our problems.

    all I can say is that now most economists say that housing is key to rescuing the economy and faster immigration is key to faster recovery. this is the key point in the present scenario ..people will give scant respect if we try to use other issues -namely by saying that legal immigrants are suffering or US is losing high talent ..they will just say the whole US is suffering - why should we care about yr problems.
    but if we push faster immigration of people who are already here legally as a small way to solve the housing crisis then it will definitely stand a chance -
    (please note - no distinction between those who are renting and who have a house already - this makes most sense. this is helpful to those who have purchased a house - since getting gC faster means that they have additional peace of mind)





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  • Guest007
    03-12 02:52 PM
    No one is accusing IV

    All we are looking for is some questions, and asking IV to hold something more tangible which attract more members for a cause. A lot of people are loosing faith, to be honest, I lost mine in IV, as I did my contributions pertaining to letters, faxes and other stuff.

    However I have not don't any monetary contribution, and the reason is, I want to see some more transparency. I was not a July filer and I have urged IV and Pappu several times to hold something, a rally or some time type of event that attracts attention. But somehow IV does not initiate any attempts.

    I want to ask you this, taking the current situations in to consideration, new rules against H1b, more rigidness towards immigrants, why has this organization not initiated something after summer of 2007.

    I am sorry, I am not going to buy the notion, we met USCIS and informed them Jack & Jill, in that case where are the results, efficiency is measured by results and not by attempts.

    Come back to IV in 2 weeks, and see it for yourself, if this organization attempts to do something or just ignore the posts.


    Being a non profit organization, as IV, it runs on people and their involvement. How can organization sustain growth or even stability at this point in time, when no attempts are made to attract new members.


    There will be some who will disagree with me, critique me and call me names. But I believe I expressed myself clearly and have not questioned any one's integrity, however I have questioned the efficiency of applied attempts in the past by IV. There are a lot like me, who wants to do something for the cause, bu we need the organization to act like one, and bring in more more transparency to its attempts.


    Just in the beginning of the day, I had 5 greens and now reds, I assure you colors don't make a difference, however if their is any sanity to what I said, please think and act rationally.


    Thank you

    Your frustration is pointed at wrong place. Ideally you should show this kind of frustration on a elected official who promises you something and does not deliver. But in this case IV core is not a eleceted representative for you, all they are doing is providing a platform to fight for a cause. If you have an agenda you start taking the lead for that and IV core will provide the platform to help that. It does not help just being a by stander.





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  • abhijitp
    07-24 12:07 PM
    I'll do it first thing as soon as I receive.
    Somebody was saying CIS will reject before issuing RN.
    Is that possible?

    We will get the RN most likely after August 17, so can we send another document pertaining to our already submitted AOS?

    I am trying to determine if it is worthwhile submitting a fresh I-485 along with this letter (and is there any risk at all with it). Suggestions welcome.





    srkamath
    07-13 12:27 PM
    But where are we getting these numbers like say 20k visas are available for EB2..

    DOS / USCIS in their congressional testimony in May, stated that they have used up ~ 65% of the 140k EB numbers by April - that left us with ~ 49 k unused then.
    Shortly thereafter, the VB said all the allotable numbers for EB3 had been used up and that all EB1 spillover and EB2 ROW leftovers will go to EB2 retrogressed countries.





    gcseeker2002
    03-20 07:56 PM
    How do you know that the labour process has slowed down from Mar 01 2011 ? Any source for this info? Please share.
    Yes I would also like to know where it says that Labor process is stalled from Mar 1st,as it is impacting my current decision.



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